tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post5275989365065994356..comments2021-09-18T08:47:46.873-07:00Comments on Ketutar says so: Female polymathsKetutarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17817006362006690145noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-71813013583585898812021-09-18T08:47:46.873-07:002021-09-18T08:47:46.873-07:00Found the thread here
https://www.quora.com/Who-a...Found the thread here <br />https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-women-polymaths<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-41429675399992792692016-10-26T13:42:37.929-07:002016-10-26T13:42:37.929-07:00Try with Anna Maria van Schurmann. Painter, sculpt...Try with Anna Maria van Schurmann. Painter, sculptor,poet, scholar and polyglot. Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz and Hedy Lamarr might also count.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-50066869545434617742015-12-03T02:29:53.578-08:002015-12-03T02:29:53.578-08:00Professor Lisa Jardine ( 1944 - 2015 )
...<br /> Professor Lisa Jardine ( 1944 - 2015 )<br /> <br /> British Professor of History, held a chair in Embryology, Science Author, and a brilliant student a Maths and English who like her Mathematician and Polymath father J Bronowski ( 1908 - 1974 ), revered as a Public Intellectual.<br /><br /><br /> Victoria Wood ( b.1953 )<br /><br /> British Comedian, Actress, Singer-Songwriter, Script Writer, and Director.<br /><br /><br /> George Eliot ( 1819 - 1880 )<br /><br /> British Novelist, Poet, and Essayist, whose giant and great intellectual capacity was fuelled by the whole world. She is claimed by 'Buzan's Book Of Genius', mentioned in 'Buzan's Book Of Mental World Records' to have had a historical I.Q. of about 180 on the Stanford-Binet scale! which has a Stanford deviation of 16. on this scale 132 represents Mensa illegibility level! Due to the Flynn Effect this score today in 2015 would equate to 158 on the Stanford-Binet scale with a standard deviation of 16.<br /><br /><br /><br /> BritishMike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-44642286969850745352015-11-06T12:53:23.765-08:002015-11-06T12:53:23.765-08:00
Other suggestions, -
George Eli...<br /><br /> Other suggestions, -<br /><br /> George Eliot ( 1819 - 1880 )?, Victoria Wood ( b.1953 )? and Shobna Gulati ( b.1966 )?<br /><br /><br /> Cheers - Mike <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Mike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-5224278545884698962015-11-05T15:45:37.699-08:002015-11-05T15:45:37.699-08:00Hi Ketutar!
I heard rece...<br /> Hi Ketutar!<br /><br /> <br /> I heard recently that Lisa Jardine ( 1944 - 2015 ), who sadly died of breast cancer recently, was a polymath, being a Professor of History, holding a chair in Embryology, as well as being brilliant at Maths and English, Writing Books, and like her father Jacob Bronowski ( 1908 - 1974 ), being renowned for being a Public Intellectual.<br /><br /><br /> Cheers - Mike ( Fuller )<br /><br /> Love your pictures you've posted! Inspired by my, and other people's comments.Mike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-20935311099907903842015-04-28T05:12:49.597-07:002015-04-28T05:12:49.597-07:00
Thank You, Ketutar!!!
<br /><br /> Thank You, Ketutar!!!<br /><br /> Mike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-55204960510163362402015-04-28T03:44:49.558-07:002015-04-28T03:44:49.558-07:00Mike, yes, you are absolutely correct :-)
Maya An...Mike, yes, you are absolutely correct :-) <br />Maya Angelou is/was a very accomplished and intelligent woman and should not be forgotten :-)<br />Thank you for reminding us :-)Ketutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17817006362006690145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-4144922546825683822015-04-28T03:43:03.964-07:002015-04-28T03:43:03.964-07:00I'm not getting any notifications of comments ...I'm not getting any notifications of comments to this blog. I have tried several times to correct the settings, but for some reason I only get notifications from two Blogger blogs. I'm sorry I didn't notice the comments.<br /><br />I am not going to remove anyone's comments, unless they are SPAM, because one can remove one's own comment, and I think people may well be responsible for the consequences of their own words.<br /><br />I wouldn't remove Robert's comment in any case. <br /><br />Firstly, I don't consider there being any defamation or "slender" in his comment, and even if there was, I consider him fully responsible for his own words and I think he does too.<br /><br />Secondly, that people make spelling and grammatical errors is no reason to remove their comments or blog posts. Especially when I am not flawless in that respect. (Or you, anonymous. It's "slander".)<br /><br />Thirdly, ignorance is not a reason to remove any comments, neither is the fact that some people choose to post as anonymous. If you find him ignorant of the facts, please state the correct facts and inform us of the truth. I will not delete your comment. Don't you think it would be better if the people reading Robert's comment could also read the correction of facts?Ketutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17817006362006690145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-89739950630824237192015-03-27T11:46:41.436-07:002015-03-27T11:46:41.436-07:00A lot of people who aren't necessarily educate...A lot of people who aren't necessarily educated possess many talents and could be considered polymaths. Most farmers in my country, in the first half of the 20th century at least, were proficient not only in agriculture, but also in carpentry, construction, animal husbandry, and many more skills that have been lost to urbanization. I would suggest "polymath" is a term that an academic elite likes to use to flatter itself, but if you consider the broad range of intelligences, academic polymaths aren't the only kind of polymaths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-27817944141168443202015-01-08T14:56:46.291-08:002015-01-08T14:56:46.291-08:00Maya Angelou ( 1928 - 2014 ) was a dark po...Maya Angelou ( 1928 - 2014 ) was a dark polymath, being a great poet, a writer, film director and I think she was an actor to. Another beautiful dark female mind is Doctor. Maggie Aderin Pocock ( b.1928 ) who is a British space scientist of Nigerian parents, who was told when she wanted to go into science but due to her dyslexia a teacher said to her that she should try nursing as that is scientific to. She left school with 4 A-Levels in Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, and Biology. She is a science celebrity, being an enthusiast, communicator and populariser of science, as she has given a television documentary on the moon, gives presentations on science, and co-hosts the famous long lasting BBC Television show 'The Sky At Night' with the intellectual Chris Lintot. And of course as mentioned above, she has a Ph.D. 'A truly intelligent woman who gives pride and inspiration to dark people and the CRAP about dark people them being less intelligent!!! <br /><br /> <br /> Cheers - Mike ( Fuller )Mike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-2249349611641322992014-11-09T03:55:10.653-08:002014-11-09T03:55:10.653-08:00To blogger Ketutar says so. Request to remove comm...To blogger Ketutar says so. Request to remove comments from Robert on "Female polymaths" February 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM: Defamation of characters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-14914725414341820502014-06-26T11:19:18.953-07:002014-06-26T11:19:18.953-07:00Dr. Mayer Angelou ( 1928 - 2014 ) who died...Dr. Mayer Angelou ( 1928 - 2014 ) who died recently was a remarkable American dark woman in the days when dark people in America especially women like women in the Middle Ages such as Hildegard von Bingen ( 1098 - 1179 ) were seen as a lower class of person. Mayer was a Poet, Writer, Actress, Director, and much else besides!!! A truly amazing woman!!!<br /><br /><br /> Cheers - Mike ( Fuller )Mike Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687877142235655023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-58512999187486375362014-03-25T15:39:21.898-07:002014-03-25T15:39:21.898-07:00It is because of men like Robert ,
*who don't...It is because of men like Robert , <br />*who don't even know how to spell and <br />*who are totally ignorant to facts and<br />*who are slendering a good name of any accomplished woman , <br />that female polymaths are so underrepresented in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-39338522444193597962013-06-12T02:00:39.920-07:002013-06-12T02:00:39.920-07:00Thank you for commenting, Anonymous :-)
I'm s...Thank you for commenting, Anonymous :-)<br /><br />I'm sure you're right - to some extend. The reality was much brighter than we now believe.<br /><br />I have also noticed the existence and influence of women in the Medieval Catholic church, and I know the status of women was much better than the Feminist herstory writers want us to believe.<br /><br />In reality it started to get really bad in the 18th century with "enlightenment", and women were treated worse than during the Medieval times during the Victorian era and 20th century. <br /><br />Also the idea of that Catholic church especially would be misogynist, when we know about Hildegard of Bingen, we know about the abbedissa who went to Rome to tell the pope off, and he obeyed, because she was right, we know of Birgitta and other Catholic women with as much power, influence and rights as any man. <br /><br />Nevertheless, everything cannot be obfuscated. <br /><br />We know that in the 18th century they were discussing if women are even human beings, and they came to the conclusion that "yes, but..." Women are emotional creatures, more like animals in their minds, just like non-white people. <br /><br />We know that it took a very long time for women in the Western world to get civil rights, and that after a long and hard fight where people were being abused, mutilated, even killed just for saying women are just as much people as men... Very much like during the black suffrage... and we know Feminism is still needed.<br /><br />If one looks at books or lists of important people, polymaths, Nobel winners etc. etc. and compares that to some facts we know today - that one cannot really find any difference in the work of a female or male scientist, writer, artist, philosopher etc; that the produce of our mind is equal - and we know that there is a slight overrepresentation of women in the mankind, the underrepresentation of women on all these lists cannot be explained with some clouding and hiding of facts.<br /><br />Nevertheless, I'd like to find more examples...Ketutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17817006362006690145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-21417909978438968412013-06-11T04:36:28.625-07:002013-06-11T04:36:28.625-07:00Actually, I think that women's participation t...Actually, I think that women's participation through history was only obfuscated later on. <br />Evidence: I visited an exhibition in Nuremberg about craft guilds, and there were documents that listed women masters of the craft, who also participated in the decisions of the guilds. <br /><br />Same holds for the alledged oppression of women by the catholic church. If you look closely at medieval history, you will find double cloisters (led by male AND female leaders), and you will find women as Hildegard, Elisabeth of Thüringen (founder of a cloister, reformer, queen of her country), Teresa of Avila (reformer of the Carmelite Order, abbess, philosopher, one of three women holding the title "Doctor of the Church"), and many more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-38883111814209481032013-03-01T02:00:22.064-08:002013-03-01T02:00:22.064-08:00Hi, Robert :-)
Hildegard von Bingen is mentioned ...Hi, Robert :-)<br /><br />Hildegard von Bingen is mentioned most often as a female polymath, I agree. <br /><br />Victoria Silvstedt... It really doesn't matter why she has done what she has done. <br />But if you look at the list "Hunting modern polymaths: 20 living examples" which I linked to, Victoria Silvstedt would qualify. <br /><br />Nevertheless, I didn't mention her as an example of a polymath, but more as critique of the lists of polymaths I managed to find online. Mae Carol Jemison isn't mentioned on any of them, neither is Doreen Rosenstrauch, and I hadn't heard of either before you mentioned them. Why? Because most lists of polymaths don't mention women. (Except for Hildegard and occasionally Hypatia.)<br /><br />I also say "even though that is sort of true, it makes being a polymath a vastly common phenomenon. And I kind of don't think it is. I expect a little bit more... no, I expect a HELL LOT more of a person before I'm ready to classify him/her as a polymath." <br />So you and I agree on that.<br /><br />And thank you for your comment. I'm glad to learn about Mae Carol Jemison. :-)Ketutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17817006362006690145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3384549931449064855.post-7975340225435063262013-02-27T12:17:17.529-08:002013-02-27T12:17:17.529-08:00I have to agree with you that Female polymaths are...I have to agree with you that Female polymaths are not recognised but then the historical reasons are very obvious and they are still present today.<br /><br />Although i think you'll find that Hildegard von Bingen would make the top 10 known polymaths in history - people <b>have</b> heard of her.<br /><br /><br />However you just set the bar on the ground with Victoria Silvstedt - <i>come on really?</i> <br />For starters no-one would say she's a accomplished singer or actor or TV presenter or fashion designer - she has those roles purely because she was a model and got the right breaks at the right time - by that logic Victoria Beckham is a polymath and so is her husband.<br /><br />Her only impressive cerebral quality is that fact she speaks multiple languages but even then she isn't a polyglot.<br /><br />I mean seriously you just put her above of say someone like <b>Mae Carol Jemison</b> who is more of a polymath considering she was/is: astronaut, physician, teacher, scientist, humanist, (dancer), (producer), (actress) - admittedly a lot of those things overlap. <br /><br />Lastly there's the issue of what defines a polymath. Some self-professed female "polymaths" such as: Doreen Rosenstrauch who have essentially lied about their accomplished traits are clearly not. By her standards even I'm a athlete, humanist, artist and scientist. Oh I've written one book (unpublished of course) as well but that would make me a writer and I blog once in a while so I'd be a independant journalist and philosopher. I play the piano put musician there in as well, and did a bit of amateur acting - actor as well, wrote some poems - so I'm a poet. Personally I think that would be called a dilettante.<br /><br />The idea of polymath is that their level of proficiency is close to that of an expert or master, otherwise a lot of people with let's say well rounded interests would make that cut.Robertnoreply@blogger.com